Rational Security

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Rational Security is a weekly roundtable podcast featuring Shane Harris of the Wall Street Journal, Susan Hennessey and Benjamin Wittes of Lawfare and the Brookings Institution, and Tamara Cofman Wittes, who directs the Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings. It's a lively and irreverent discussion of news, ideas, foreign policy, and law. There's always a laugh. Often, there are guests. Sometimes there's even Scotch. A production of . You can  or on

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Rational Security: The "Mansplaining" Edition

Bob Mueller indicts a slew of Russians who interfered in the 2016 election. Can the president distinguish between the national interest and his own? And the school shooting in Florida brings students to the frontline of the gun control debate. Plus, the word "fucked" appears on Lawfare for the first time, and for good reason. And Shane wonders if Jared Kushner will lose his interim security clearance.


Rational Security: The ‘Do We Have Clearance, Clarence?’ Edition

Dozens of White House officials, including Jared Kushner, lack permanent security clearances. It’s been a really bad week for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. And U.S. intelligence chiefs present their annual list of threats to national security. Plus, I am at it again with FOIA. And Tamara is ironing her abaya.


Rational Security: The “State of the #Memo” Edition

Susan and I are away this week. But Shane, Tamara and Quinta hold down the fort. They discuss major developments in the Russia probe as House Republicans move to declassify a mysterious memo and the FBI’s No. 2 steps down. A new article reveals the inner workings of the Israeli spy machine. And smart watches are giving away US forces’ locations—while they’re jogging. Plus, Shane recommends Ronen Bergman’s new book on Israeli intelligence. And Tamara says, #ImWithVictor.


Rational Security: The 'Are You Suuure?' Edition

Hawaii authorities mistakenly warn citizens they’re about to be hit by a ballistic missile. The FBI warns Jared Kushner about his relationship with a prominent Chinese-American. And we talk updates on L’Affaire Russe. Plus, Tamara goes old school with a report on Russia. I give an after-action report on the Rational Security dating service. And Shane wants you to hear—and see—Sophia Yan live in concert.


Rational Security: The ‘Never Get Drunk with Australians’ Edition

A wave of anti-government protests grips Iran. Former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos may have been the impetus for the Russia investigation. And Defense Secretary James Mattis addresses the U.S. role in the war in Yemen and civilian casualties. Plus, Shane recommends Jim Risen’s tell-all in The Intercept. And I make a video and a coin.

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