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Rational Security: The "Rex, Eat the Salad" Edition

Rex Tillerson is out at the State Department, and Mike Pompeo will leave CIA to take his place. The British government blames Russia for a brazen poisoning plot—but President Trump is not so sure. And Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee wrap up their Russia probe. Plus, special guest Scott Anderson tells us about a document so transparent you can’t even see it. Tamara runs for a friend. And Shane is engaged in dangerous drinking.


The Cyberlaw Podcast: Interview with Amb. Nathan Sales

Our interview this week is with Amb. Nathan Sales, the State Department’s counterterrorism coordinator. We cover a Trump administration diplomatic achievement in the field of technology and terrorism that has been surprisingly under covered (or maybe it’s not surprising at all, depending on how cynical you are about press coverage of the Trump administration).


The Lawfare Podcast: Jeh Johnson on Protecting the Cyber Battlespace

Last week, former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson addressed the Boston Conference on Cybersecurity in a speech titled "Cyberspace is the New Battlespace." The next day, Secretary Johnson sat down with Harvard Law professor and Lawfare co-founder Jack Goldsmith to discuss the themes his speech reflected on. They discussed the hacking and exfiltration of data, the vulnerabilities of the U.S. electoral infrastructure to cyberattacks, and the problem of fake news and disinformation—and what we might do to stem it.


The National Security Law Podcast: Mueller Is the Only Vulcan in the Room

Out on spring break but still listening to the podcast? We love it! Actually, your hosts are out on spring break too, but before they left town they sat down to record episode 63 on March 9. If things have gone crazy over the weekend, and you are surprised they aren’t discussing them here—well, that’s why!

This week’s show, at any rate, catches up on a number of ongoing sagas:


The Lawfare Podcast: Yascha Mounk on Populism and Democracy

Long before the election of Donald Trump, Yascha Mounk predicted that democracy was in trouble. A leading voice on the crisis of democracy and the growth of populism, Mounk has now written a book that addresses how liberal societies might survive, called "The People vs. Democracy: Why Our Freedom Is in Danger and How to Save It." This week, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Mounk in the Jungle Studio to discuss the argument his book advances and its implications for the future of liberal democracy around the world. 


Rational Security: The "Ben Sucks and Also a Lot of News Happened" Edition

Let the record reflect that I dissent from this episode's title, which was imposed upon me because I joined remotely from Maui.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller zeroes in on a mysterious Lebanese businessman. What do elections in Italy portend for democracy in Europe? And North Korea signals it’s willing to cut a deal with the United States. 

Plus, special guest Shannon Togawa Mercer is contemplating the security implications of Barbra Streisand's cloned dogs. And Tamara shares a slide show of her trip to Riyadh.


The National Security Law Podcast: Wait, We Have to Talk About GATT?

It’s not every week on this show that we get to talk about the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade! And if that’s not an appealing hook to get you to listen, we don’t know what is.

Let’s try that again. On this week’s show, we cover a mix of new and old topics:


The Lawfare Podcast: Zhanna Nemtsova on Boris Nemtsov's Life

Zhanna Nemtsova is a journalist at Deutsche Welle, the founder of the Boris Nemtsov Foundation for Freedom, and the daughter of Boris Nemtsov. Feb. 27 marked the three-year anniversary since the assassination of Boris Nemtsov, who was the former deputy prime minister of Russia under Boris Yeltsin before becoming a prominent political activist and outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin. On Feb. 27 of this year, the street in front of the Russian Embassy was renamed the Boris Nemtsov Plaza.

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