The Lawfare Podcast


The Lawfare Podcast is the weekly audio production of the Lawfare staff in cooperation with the Brookings Institution. Podcast episodes include interviews with policymakers, scholars, journalists, and analysts; events and panel discussions. 

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The Lawfare Podcast: Milley, Trump and Civil-Military Relations with Peter Feaver, Kori Schake and Alexander Vindman

A new book by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa contains reporting about several controversial actions by Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley in late 2000 and early 2021, regarding conversations with his Chinese counterparts, his discussion with senior military officers about following standard nuclear procedures (if need be), and reaching out to others like the CIA and NSA directors to remind them to watch everything closely.


The Lawfare Podcast: Seth Stoughton on the Shooting of Ashli Babbitt

On January 6, a mob of pro-Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol during the certification of the Electoral College vote. As lawmakers were being evacuated by Capitol police, Ashli Babbitt, a 35-year-old Air Force veteran, tried to climb through a shattered window in a barricaded door. Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd shot Babbitt as she was climbing through the window and Babbitt died later that day. In the polarized debate over January 6, the death of Ashli Babbitt has become a focal point and one of unusual political valence.


The Lawfare Podcast: A Sneak Peak: Lawfare’s New 'No Bull' Podcast

For today’s episode of the Lawfare Podcast, we are bringing you a preview of a new podcast Lawfare is launching: Lawfare No Bull, which brings you a curated feed of the most essential speeches, testimony and other found audio relating to national security. Subscribe to the separate Lawfare No Bull podcast feed to receive future episodes!


The Lawfare Podcast: U.S Security Commitments Post-Afghanistan Withdrawl

During the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and the Taliban’s subsequent takeover of the country, some observers were quick to question the U.S.’s security commitments to various countries around the world. These commentators point to countries like Ukraine and Taiwan that have defense relationship with the United States and said that, if the U.S. could not be dependable in Afghanistan, those countries could not rely on the U.S. to meet its security commitments.


The Lawfare Podcast: Jack Goldsmith and Ben Wittes on Lawfare Origins and 9/11

More than 11 years ago, Bobby Chesney, Jack Goldsmith and Benjamin Wittes started a national security law blog called Lawfare, focused almost exclusively on issues related to the U.S. government's reaction to 9/11 and the reactions to those government policies and the legal justifications for them. 


The Lawfare Podcast: Marc Polymeropoulos on the CIA, 9/11 and Havana Syndrome

Marc Polymeropoulos served for 26 years in the CIA. He joined the agency working on Afghanistan in the 1990s and moved on to operational roles across the Middle East, recruiting spies and hunting terrorists. Later, he became a senior officer responsible for operations in Russia, which as you'll hear, led to a fateful trip to Moscow that altered the course of his career and his life.


The Lawfare Podcast: Content Moderation Comes for Parler and Gettr

Let’s say you’re a freedom-loving American fed up with Big Tech’s effort to censor your posts. Where can you take your business? One option is Parler—the social media platform that became notorious for its use by the Capitol rioters. Another is Gettr—a new site started by former Trump aide Jason Miller.


The Lawfare Podcast: ‘Humane’ with Samuel Moyn

Jack Goldsmith sat down with Samuel Moyn, Henry R. Luce Professor of Jurisprudence at Yale Law School and a professor of history at Yale University. The two discussed Professor Moyn’s latest book, “Humane: How the United States Abandoned Peace and Reinvented War.” The conversation touched on the changing nature of war, the decoupling of conflict from our national conversations and even Tolstoy.

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