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Chatter is a weekly long-form conversation podcast hosted by Shane Harris of the Washington Post and David Priess of Lawfare, featuring in-depth discussions with fascinating people at the creative edges of national security. You’ll hear a refreshing mix of authors, national security figures with quirky stories, visual media creatives, technical experts, and new voices exploring areas from Hollywood to history, science to spy fiction.

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The Chatter Podcast: Leadership, Sports, and Intelligence Innovation with Sue Gordon, from the Chatter Archive

David Priess sat down with longtime intelligence officer Sue Gordon, who shared stories about her experiences in team sports, lessons on leadership, her role in creating the CIA’s non-profit venture capital firm, and more.

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