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ChinaTalk: 'Invisible China': How the Urban-Rural Divide Threatens China’s Ris‪e‬

Scott Rozelle (legend, Stanford professor, co-director of the Stanford Center on China's Economy and Institutions) joins ChinaTalk to discuss his recent book, "Invisible China: How the Urban-Rural Divide Threatens China’s Rise," co-authored with Natalie Hell. We discuss how China’s 900 million-strong low-income population will decide China’s future development path. Is China is the next Mexico? Why is it easy to solve poverty but not low income? Why don’t local governments spend enough on rural education and health?


ChinaTalk: Japan's China Challeng‪e‬

To discuss, ChinaTalk assembled two of my favorite Japanese think-tankers, Yuka Koshino, a research fellow at the UK think tank International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), and Akira Igata, the executive director at the Tama University-affiliated Center for Rule-making Strategy (CRS). Joshua Fitt of The Center for a New American Security (CNAS) cohosts.

Thanks to CNAS for making this show possible.

Outtro songs:


ChinaTalk: Baijiu‪!‬

Derek Sandhaus is the author of "Drunk in China: Baijiu and the World's Oldest Drinking Culture" and part of the team behind Ming River Baijiu, the first (good) Baijiu created especially for the international market. We discuss AA in china, Baijiu's origins, different varieties of Baijiu, the drink's evolving role in modern China as well as the challenge of bringing such a polarizing drink to Europe and the US.

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ChinaTalk: U.S.-China Ideological Competitio‪n‬

Are the U.S. and China in ideological competition? How does one go about answering that question? Dan Tobin of the U.S. Intelligence Community's National Intelligence University and Ryan Manuel of Official China have a dangerous amount of fun debating guiding ideologies and what they mean for geopolitics.

Dan's 2020 congressional testimony on CCP ideology:


ChinaTalk: China's Chip Dream‪s‬

John Verwey of the Substack “Semi-Literate" (and formerly of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security, U.S. International Trade Commission and U.S. Trade Representative) talks the history and future of China's chip industry. We get into government guidance funds, the CHIPS Act, “Fabs not Labs,” export controls and more.

John's substack:


ChinaTalk: Michèle Flournoy on "Affecting the Strategic Calculus‪"‬

Michèle Flournoy joined AcquisitionTalk's Eric Lofgren and me for another crossover episode of China-AcquisitionTalk. Flournoy is a former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, co-founder and new board chair of CNAS (where I'm a fellow), and currently the founder and managing partner of WestExec Advisors. I dove deep into the archive, digging up copies of Flournoy's undergraduate and master's theses to discuss "psycho-social approaches to international relations" and 1980s nuclear policy.


ChinaTalk: Te-Ping Chen's Short Stories of Modern Chin‪a‬

In her years as a Wall Street Journal foreign correspondent in Hong Kong and Beijing, Te-Ping Chen came across a lifetime of remarkable characters and events. Most of these didn’t make her newspaper articles, so she began collecting them in short stories, which were collected in a book published just last month, Land of Big Numbers. Mara Hvistendahl guest hosts an interview with Te-Ping, where we discuss her writing process, journalism versus fiction writing, and some of the stories behind the stories.


ChinaTalk: Rhodium's Dan Rosen on Hiring Me, 30 Years of China-Watching, Decoupling and Deb‪t‬

Dan Rosen is the founding partner of the Rhodium Group and leads the China team. He is also my boss!

We talk about our plans for China tech coverage, lessons from thirty years of China-watching, how he thinks about decoupling, China's debt situation. We also play underrated/overrated on whether track two dialogues are a waste of time, PDF length and talking to government officials.

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ChinaTalk: To The Quad! The Origins of "Indo-Pacific‪"‬

Rory Medcalf, head of the National Security College at Australia National University discusses his new book "Indo-Pacific Empire."

We talk 15th-century Korean maps, the promise of the 1947 Asian Relations Conference, Australia and India's shifting conceptions of their place in the region, the origins of the Quad, China-Australia relations and advice Rory has for the Quad countries as they try to figure out what this "minilateral" should amount to.

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