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The Lawfare Podcast: The Legacy of Madeleine Albright, with Kori Schake and Natalie Orpett

By Jen Patja Howell
Monday, April 4, 2022, 5:01 AM

Madeleine Albright passed away on March 23. She was the first woman to serve as secretary of state in  United States history, and she had a long legacy, both from her time as secretary and beyond. To talk through what made her special and what her impact was, David Priess sat down with Kori Schake and Natalie Orpett. Kori is the director of Foreign and Defense Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute, and she worked in the Department of Defense, the Department of State and the National Security Council staff. Natalie Orpett is the executive editor of Lawfare, and she worked with Secretary Albright as her executive assistant after she had left the Department of State. She recently published a piece on Lawfare discussing her experience and Secretary Albright's mentorship. They talked about some of the foreign policy developments during Secretary Albright's tenure; about her personal relationships, including with those with whom she did not agree; and about her legacy when it comes to helping women in national security positions.