The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Podcast: Comey, Johnson, and Rogers Speak at Aspen

By Benjamin Wittes
Saturday, July 25, 2015, 3:40 PM

This week, the Aspen Security Forum featured interviews with—among others—FBI Director James Comey, DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson, and NSA Director Adm. Michael Rogers. I have edited these discussions down to manageable length and focused them on the questions most of interest to Lawfare readers.

Comey's discussion with CNN's Wolf Blitzer is most notable for his comments on ISIS and encryption—as well as some pointed comments about cybersecurity.

Johnson's discussion with Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker offers a spirited defense of CVE and also thoughts on ISIS and other threats.

In some ways the most interesting of the discussions—marred only by unfortunate glitches in the audio—is Rogers's discussion with David Sanger, in part because of the truly artful manner in which Sanger posed questions that Rogers could actually address in a public forum. Sanger deserves a lot of credit here for conducting this interview in a particularly thoughtful manner that elicits a lot of insight and information from the NSA chief and does not spend time grilling him with questions he necessarily needs to no-comment.

I have already posted full videos of all three events for those who want the unedited versions, complete with audience questions.

Many thanks to the folks at the Aspen Security Forum for letting us use the audio of these events.